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5:20
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Rasha Suliman: الله يكثر من امثاله يا ريت كل الناس بتدعوا وبتتحاور بهالطريقة الرائعة
Cisca Zarmansyah : Syukron ya Rasha
Shadi Ali : cisca, its (shokran)
Rasha Suliman : welcome ya cisca
ЯΛDICΛŁIZΛTIOП [HQ]
by Cisca Zarmansyah (videos)
4:19
Republicans now hold a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, then comes the criticisms of new anti-Islamic. According to Peter King, majority Muslims in America were "the very model.", but he also added that the threat of terror "was also from Muslim groups members." King also admitted that it was only a little part of American Muslims associated with terrorism, but he said that the extremists have influence that went beyond numbers. He also said 80% of mosques in the U.S. was led by hard-line priest. King believed the "political manners" was interfering with national security. Not only that, he likened the hearing as an investigation of Italian-American mafia family.
If a presidential candidate running for office in 2012, or for that matter in years past (say, 2004 or 2008), said "there is no radical Muslim threat in America," it would immediately disqualify that candidate. It would be a worse gaffe than President Gerald Ford saying, "There is no Soviet dominance of Eastern Europe."
MPAC Joins 54 Groups in Sending Letter to King Condemning "Radicalization" Hearings - Muslim Public.
MPAC joined more than 50 other interfaith organizations in sending a letter to Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, objecting to the committee’s March 10 hearings on the “radicalization” of American Muslims.
Islam Times - A professor of law says that Congressman Peter King “is launching a new crusade against Muslims in the US,” by sponsoring the so-called hearings on the Radicalization of Muslims in America.
Peter King’s “Muslim Hearings” are Political Theater to Target Muslims | Islamophobia Today eNewspap
Loonwatch was live blogging the controversial (anti)-Muslim Hearings being chaired by bigoted ex-IRA terrorist supporter Peter King. It was a circus. It devolved along partisan lines with Republicans predictably falling behind the rhetoric and narrative of Peter King.
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Adriaan Zef : How true of his claim? Eric Holder said the threat of domestic terrorism made him always awake at midnight, as he mentioned some names like Yemeni-American imam, Anwar al-Awlaki ....
Pranay Suresh : I want to say to Peter King and other people who agree with him that the American people will not agree on the attitude of xenophobia or fear of foreign things as he does.
Adriaan Zef : Alauddin El-Bakri http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2011%2F03%2F09%2FMNH41I7F6G.DTL
Alauddin El-Bakri worries about a new round of backlash and mistrust toward members of his Saratoga mosque because of a congressional hearing being held today on what a Republican congressman is calling the radicalization of Islam in the United States.
Adriaan Zef : http://pluralism.org/directory/index/?sort=state%252Ccity%252Ctitle&tradition=Islam
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CieL- FreYa Ceastle : I agree that we must fight against radicalization. But limiting it to one group is an improper act. The Americans's attitude toward the Islamic countries is in line with the views of opinion makers in America who are generally split into two camps: accommodationist and confrontational.
Cisca Zarmansyah : Radicalism lately become a common phenomenon in the Islamic world, Jan. Strong reaction that almost simultaneously in the Islamic world (example: the case of Prophet Muhammad caricatures) is only a small ripple in a series of larger waves of radicalism. And it's not a phenomenon that came suddenly, but was born in the political, economic, and social culture which was totally discredit the Muslims.
Pranay Suresh : A good start, Maam. Please let me know your perspective.
Cisca Zarmansyah : Ellison tried to hide the tears behind his speech paper, and immediately left the room after delivering a speech. I will mark it, Zef.
Valentino Vie : Baby, he's like Joseph McCarthy who initiated the hearings about communists in 1950. At that time, his target were the citizens who considered linked to the activities of "un-American" (communist, socialist) and it was assessed as a "threat to the country."
The hearing such as the hearing in World War II, which targeted the American citizens of Japanese descent, after the Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour. What was the result? The isolation the U.S. citizens of Japanese descent. They were considered as a threat to the country, just because of their origins. haha... I think it will marginalize 2.6 million Muslims in the U.S., even those who are considered as liberal Muslims will also be a target.
Cisca Zarmansyah : This is part of a systematic attempt to make Muslims like no place here, Noy, ... that Muslims are not America, and when it is delivered by the honorable council, then the act of discrimination against Muslims will be more acceptable.
Valentino Vie : That's because the failure of secular nationalism which is considered unable to accommodate the aspirations of the clergy. Islamic radicals do not reject modernity in terms of science or technology, but they could not accept the ideology behind it: secularism and materialism.
Cisca Zarmansyah : In global context, Iran and Egypt are considered as the most inspiring in the birth of radical Islam in other countries.
Adriaan Zef : pffh,... honey, it's just another form of raising support for the conservative base by 2012!
Fairuz Azalia : I think this is the importance of civic education, cause it's also associated with generation efforts on collective consciousness of the plural society reality.
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : I agree with you, sweetie. Radical Islamic movements in the Middle East can occur in countries whose governments are authoritarian, such as in Iraq and Syria, also in areas colonized and occupied by a foreign power (such as in Palestine) and in the country that its administration's policy is deemed too impartial to the West, such as Egypt and Iran pre-revolution.
Cisca Zarmansyah : Fai, I strongly agree with you. That is an important issue.You got my attention! ... Civic education also can open the new perspectives to parse through the strong ties of ethnicity and religious barriers.
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Valentino Vie : Je suis un homme. C'est de la musique avec âme masculine. C'est de la musique à mon âme. Une plus poème pour vous, mon petit agneau.
Là où l'esprit est sans crainte et où la tête est haut portée,Là où la connaissance est libre,Là où le monde n'a pas été morcelé entre d'étroites parois mitoyennes,Là où les mots émanent des profondeurs de la sincérité,Là où l'effort infatigué tend les bras vers la perfection;Là où le clair courant de la raison ne s'est pas mortellement égaré dans l'aride et morne désert de la coutume,Là où l'esprit guidé par toi s'avance dans l'élargissement continu de la pensée et de l'action -Dans ce paradis de liberté,Mon père, permets que ma patrie s'éveille.**
(R. Tagore, Gitanjali )
Adriaan Zef : Is this your way to show another side of yourself?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Who? Dr. Jekyll and Mrs. Hyde? ... eh Mr. Hyde... ehehehh
Valentino Vie :To : Mrs. Vie, I'm glad I don't read this book from the first. Because its advantage is not in the plot, but at the core of story.
Adriaan Zef : What are you thankful for?
Are You Allowed To Lie?
by Cisca Zarmansyah (videos)
10:53
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CieL- FreYa Ceastle : Hello, sorry,... I'm just in War, Woman & Friendship.
Adriaan Zef : Do you want to view this topic in shades as usual?
Adriaan Zef : I mean, "I'm a Professional Liar " :: http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/articles/rkcgl-takfiri-hassan-butt-im-a-professional-liar-kadhdhaab.cfm
Hassan Butt: I'm a Professional Liar (Kadhdhaab). ...
Cisca Zarmansyah : Yes, Zef. I do Look at this beautiful lie: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/13/the_way_of_the_world_ron
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Judiciary Committee say they will review allegations the White House ordered the CIA to forge and disseminate false intelligence documents linking al-Qaeda and Iraq.
Two former US security contractors may sue a former US defence secretary for his role in their alleged torture in Iraq by US troops, a court rules.
Adriaan Zef : ... spread it back, pretty! make me like a spark to your mind. You always satisfy me.
May Allah be With You
by Cisca Zarmansyah (videos)
5:27
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CieL- FreYa Ceastle: Ik hou van je ♥
Lakshmi Lavanya : from Allah we come, to Allah we return.
Pranay Suresh : Allah won't be far from you
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Fairuz Azalia : ... It was a sad story of her life. I think, actually we never know how the end of this life's journey before we reach the final point.
Fairuz Azalia: The will of Allah, that's what happened. The story of Lauren Booth spiritual journey can be used as an example that religion is enlightenment for every those who are called.
► http://www.presstv.ir/detail/148014.html
► http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323412/After-Tony-Blairs-conversion-Catholicism-sister-law-Laura-Booth-says-Im-Muslim.html
Cisca Zarmansyah : I want to go home. And I'm not going to go back to wherever for good.
Valentino Vie : Did you say home in a philosophical sense, honey? Please don't make me lose you when I feel our souls are together. Where are you coming home? Please take this stupid man's hand with you, ... come home.
Cisca Zarmansyah : No, I just want my mind and my soul are always in peace. Every day I hope God will never leave me in doubt.
Watch this video, it's about Dr. Jeffrey Lang. Although I've read his book "Losing My Religion: A Call for Help" (2004) three times, ...but I never get bored every time I remembered. I was very impressed. He was chosen by God, at least he has been greeted with something called the guidance of God....
► http://www.discoveringislam.org/dr_jeffrey_lang.htm ::
*Dr. Jeffrey Lang - From Atheism To Islam:
► PART 1/4 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNOaePZT68
► PART 2/4 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsGc4yvHkEc
► PART 3/4 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnb70miMeWQ
► PART 4/4 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GQsO4Y38t8
*Dr Jeffrey Lang From Atheism to Belief: A Journey to Islam in North America
► Part 01/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVQ1BWqjTjs
► Part 02/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pliSaSQ-FTk
► Part 03/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KMvOI8levo
► Part 04/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhptKiANDeo
► Part 05/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZ-u2ikER4
► Part 06/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXSeMBDwB9A
► Part 07/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RDhNIL7UbQ
► Part 08/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqy4q7mxWmw
► Part 09/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ji9fsBHfO0
► Part 10/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKFWNRieZo
► Part 11/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAR-t2HxvZI
► Part 12/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPnI-5ClMeQ
► Part 13/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1W9nIgE5Mg
► Part 14/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYZveeq_rtU
► Part 15/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmQANbinZFs
► Part 16/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFUqKwc6QdA
► Part 17/17 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtuJBndDkVk
Valentino Vie : Will we talk about this in the scale for religious freedom or because I love you so much? Yeah ... and I know you like it. You love the way I love you, and you know that I'll do everything for our togetherness. Please give me a chance for a second time. I'll study harder for this toughest exams. I love you. (V - Place Des Vosges, Octobre 2010)
Aѕ-ѕαLαмυ ALαукυм
by Cisca Zarmansyah (videos)
9:57
There are many things that can be reviewed on the American life. But their principle in freedom of religion and expression is the principle that I think is so nobly, beautiful, and very reasonable, so inspiring.
The principle of "separation of church and state," or the separation between state and religion ensures that in a democracy, majority religious group can't suppress the rights of minority religious groups.
Mormon religion for example (The Largest branch of the Latter Day Saint movement in restorationist Christianity) is still given a place to breathe, as far as it's not breaking the law. The law in this case is that all laws issued by central or local government, and all law is subject to the First Amendment which guarantees freedom of religion.
The point is people are free to worship whoever and whatever. Also free to not worship at all. No one feels annoyed when I suddenly express that I worship the Donald Duck, for example. More precisely, there may be those who feel disturbed, but if then they oppress me, the officers don't hesitate to act legally. These events are treated like a criminal. Done!
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Cisca Zarmansyah : Walaykum Salam, Mr. Obama!
Fairuz Azalia : Aѕsalamualaykum, C. May Allah will always bless you and your family.
My principle is as long as I'm sure with my religion, then it's no impact to other people's beliefs. The violence in the name of religion for me nothing more than / insecurity / smallness of soul and duping which ridden by specific interests.
Cisca Zarmansyah : This issue can be rolled into political arena, Fai. Just like thinking about how a Muslim majority country that is led by a president of non-Islamic religion.
Valentino Vie : Il parle de quoi? On peut y aller? Apprends-moi sur le soufisme comme vous l'avez écrit dans message. Qu'est-ce que Salam Walaykum, chérie?
Almira Izzati : Can the principle of state be applied in our domestic life?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Sure, Izti. In my mind, there is a relationship of two lovers from different religions, and eventually they bind themselves into the marriage. Although each of them has a different religion from each other, but love and tolerance become a new religion that reconciles the differences between them.
I, myself, if you ask my opinion, will be more support the relationship like this rather than argue about who/what is the best God among various religions.
I think God doesn't need us or our worship, but we need God, and we do the worship, we try to know and understand everything. Why do I have to see and know everything? Because I'm just a blind. But, in my blindness, I have to keep moving. And I need a religion to guide the steps of my blindness. After the religion becomes my cane, then my next step goes to human life, and this --- I think --- is the most important thing. What is the use of our worship if we always have the heart to hurt our fellow human beings? Think about it!
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : You seem more in common with Muslims than Christians.
Cisca Zarmansyah : Yes, I am
CieL- FreYa Ceastle :... what makes you think so, sweetie?
Cisca Zrmansyah
Listen to his speech that make me feel hmmmmm.....
Covering Politics, History, and Culture in the Greatest Nation on Earth .
Opponents of the planned Islamic community center and mosque near Ground Zero in lower Manhattan have public opinion firmly in their corner, according to a new TIME poll
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Almira Izzati : Don't say that you also fall in love him ...
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : GEERT WILDERS protests NYC mosque done:
► http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/08/wilders_to_speak_at_new_york_m.php
Geert Wilders is to speak at the rally being held in New York on September 11 to protest at plans to build a mosque close to the site of Ground Zero, the PVV said on Friday.
Adriaan Zef : Regardless of how hard they try to disguise it, if only from themselves, those who would forbid the ground zero "mosque" express an essentially tribal view of Americanism specifically repudiated by the US Constitution.
Pranay Suresh : In all fairness, Americans have been building ground zeros near mosques for decades!
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : I highly doubt that a muslim at my next door is going to slit my throat or spread the unreasonable fear
Adriaan Zef : GLENN BACK - Islam in Europe with GEERT WILDERS :
Fairuz Azalia : I agree with Obama who said that Al-Qaeda is not Islam. Al-Qaeda is a large deviation in the Islamic religion!
Valentino Vie : From the August 16 edition of Premiere Radio Networks" The Rush Limbaugh Show" : http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008160019
Cisca Zarmansyah : We could learn a lot from crayons. Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to live in the same box.
Cisca Zarmansyah : AP to reporters: Refer to GZ Mosque as 'NYC Mosque' now: http://www.ap.org/pages/about/pressreleases/pr_081910b.html
08/19/2010AP AdvisoryAP Standards Center issues staff advisory on covering New York City mosque Associated Press Deputy Managing Editor for Standards and Production Tom Kent sent the following note to the staff about covering the New York City mosque story and then discussed the guidance and reaction.
Adriaan Zef : Can you draw me with white crayon?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Yes, I can. I can draw you with a white crayon on a black background. It's clearly visible, isn't it?
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : Obama, we hardly know you : http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/08/19/obama_we_hardly_know_you
I was having dinner with friends the other night and the subject turned to a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed by Fouad Ajami called "The Obsolescence of Barack Obama." The subject of the piece -- which I had not seen, but now have read -- was essentially the decline and fall of the Obama presidency.
Cisca Zarmansyah : BARACK OBAMA IS A CIA CREATED FRAUD :
Adriaan Zef : Latest about Ground Zero mosque ::► http://www.newser.com/taggrid/54267/ground-zero-mosque.html
Ground Zero mosque – Current News summaries, breaking stories, photos and information about Ground Zero mosque
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Oh, maybe it's the best thing when I say no anything at all, which rarely happens....!
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Cisca Zarmansyah : They don't know we know they know we know..., so wait what? ♫♫ ....Cha Cha Cha D'amour! ...
Almira Izzati : one one was a race horse, two two was one too, one one won a race, and two two...what? guess what?... ...
Pranay Suresh : "Americanism" perfect word to sum up most Americans xenophobia, elitism, bigotry, racism., etc....
Almira Izzati : Where did this story break? Who decided to call it the "ground zero mosque"? Because it isn't a mosque and it isn't on ground zero.
Adriaan Zef : This issue is obviously being used as a tool. What is the real issue here? Property Rights. Watch and see where those in the government who want heavy regulations take this one. There's no "left and right" standard anymore. It's just those who want power at any cost, and those who want to stop them from ruining the country as we know it.
Pranay Suresh : I want to know, which is more offensive? To build a multi faith community center to represent healing and bringing together all faiths or the christians burning the Koran on 9/11?
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : I think what's more offensive is the blatant ignorance of many sheep who believe in the "sacred ground" nonsense and that Obama is a muslim.
Pranay Suresh : You're right!
► http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11027568
► http://people-press.org/report/645/
but, what about this?
► http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/19/barack-obama-is-not-a-muslim/
Valentino Vie : I'm stymied for a response (almost) mosque or whatever (and it's pretty much ground zero folks, check your facts), those that would build this have the legal right in this country to build it wherever they want. Few dispute this. What almost 70% of Americans (including Neatherthal Right Winger Howard Dean) believe it's in extremely poor taste and insensitive. And when you take the time to investigate those who are promoting and payrolling this project. You'll see it's meant to be such. Please stop the predictable "hater" labels just because reasonable folks feel it's inappropriate.
Cisca Zarmansyah : Some of those opposing the construction have tried to compare it to hypothetical situations that would outrage Americans. Since the shock induced by the 9/11 attacks had often been compared to Pearl Harbor, a few people have tried to argue that a mosque near Ground Zero in New York would be just as offensive as Japanese building a Shinto Shrine near Pearl Harbor. If they’d bothered to do some fact checking before opening their mouths, they’d probably know that there are already some Shinto Shrines in Hawaii, with a couple not far from Pearl Harbor. (There are also some Buddhist Temples in the area.)
Cisca Zarmansyah : Maybe this is the unspoken matter:
Adriaan Zef : you're right, we must cut the roots to eliminate the growth of a tree.
Cisca Zarmansyah : ... Roots? Yah, I like that word. Roots. Okay, please take the roots of this tree, Zef. Sorry, if the roots are too long.
Afghanistan and Iraq in missile on behalf of the war against terrorism, while we know the Taliban government until the last second shot of the US salvo, insisted that they didn't know anything about the WTC tragedy. Saddam Hussain's regime didn't have weapons of mass destruction as alleged by Washington. In fact, head of nuclear weapons inspection team Major General Keith Dayton (who was sent by the Pentagon with the 1400 nuclear experts) also couldn't find a piece of molukel atoms in Iraq. So, the attack on Kabul and Baghdad remained a mystery in itself. This was the same mystery by 11 September 2001. There were some very reasonable questions raised: Is it true the WTC Building in New York devastated by the blow of a plane? Is it possible that propped up the building's steel melt just because a fire? Why did US fighter jets off the air? Who was the real mastermind behind September 11? What are the interests of Washington and the Pentagon? What to do with the interests of energy in coming decades? How the fate of the Islamic world? Why Pakistan does not favor the Taliban, but the US?
Pranay Suresh : I'll be glad to join with your cha cha, memsahib...
Valentino Vie : Honey, please massage my back...!
Adriaan Zef : ... I love your spirit. In my mind, you look more beautiful if you bombard me with a barrage of questions like that. Yes, of course I really understand the direction and targets of your questions, ...tell me why do I feel like I'm kissing the rose?
The theory presented by the US government about the events 11 September 2001 terror attacks to date have been rejected by more than 120 high-ranking military, intelligence, police and government officials in the US itself, by more than 500 architects, more than 100 pilots and aviation experts and more than 200 professors in US.
But, the incident also has led to the pro and cons among Muslims themselves. Most criticized and rejected the action was considered as part of Jihad and declare that it was a Jewish design. So, there was a conspiracy surrounding, but not the least among the pro-Jihad considered the event as a success of the 'mujahideen' sacred mission to attack the American heart and symbol of American arrogance.
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Cisca Zarmansyah : Travels, thoughts, talks of Abdur-Raheem Green: http://www.islamsgreen.org/
Adriaan Zef : I like Coca Cola..!
Cisca Zarmansyah: ... me, too...
Pranay Suresh Coca-Cola remains emblematic of the best and worst of America and Western civilization
CieL- FreYa Ceastle : Please, Convey my regards to your beloved mother. Tell her that I love her daughter.
Lakshmi Lavanya : You're sweeter than Coca Cola, dear. You even can run without wearing Nike shoes ... hahaa
Almira Izzati : These days you also like a California Roll
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