For decades, hundreds of millions of people who do not understand the philosophy of science, particularly Marxism, has become a victim of "political brainwashing" that says, "Communism is atheist." (Not acknowledge the existence of God) ".
This faulty logic victims ranging from people who never went to school up to the people who had the title of Bachelor, Master or Professor.
Communism is considered by many as the atheist ideology. This misunderstanding is owned by almost everyone, except those who understand the philosophy well. Some even say Communism is not just atheists (Not acknowledge the existence of God), but also anti-theism (Anti-God) and anti-religion.
Is such an assumption right? (Are you asking for the answer or just need to be quiet, Cisca? If you ask me, then my answer is, "Wrong! I said, "Wrong!"}
Wrong.
They are not able to distinguish the notion of Communism, Marxism, Materialism, Atheism, Antitheisme, Nontheisme, Pantheism, Theism and Monotheism.
What is communism?
Communism is a political ideology and socio-economic structures that encourage the establishment of an egalitarian society, without classes and without the country, just based on the same ownership and control over the factors of production and property in general.
What is Marxism?
Marxism is an understanding that follows the views of Karl Marx. Marx developed a theory related to large economic systems, social systems, and political systems. Followers of this theory is referred to as a Marxist. Marxism covers dialectical materialism and historical materialism and its application to social life.
What is Karl Marx's version of materialism?
Marx offers a philosophy of materialism. According to Marx, the real thing is the material. In social life, the only thing real is the people who work. According to Marx, if men work, then they exist (live). Karl Marx stated that humans should not be viewed abstractly but should be viewed in a concrete, that is, in their relations with the surrounding world as the workers creature. Human nature -- according to him -- is that human is worker creature (Homo laborans, Homo faber).
What is Atheism?
Atheism is a philosophical view that does not believe in the existence of God and the gods, or the rejection of theism. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of gods or God.
What is Antitheisme?
In a general sense, Antitheisme is the ideology that opposes the existence of God. Means, implicitly this ideology recognizes that God exists, but it is opposed. So, Antitheisme actually a stream that recognizes that God does exist, but hate God. Among other things, they think God is not fair in dividing sustenance. The proof, there are rich and some are poor. God is considered unfair.
What is Nontheisme?
Nonteisme is a designation that includes religious and non-religious behavior, which is recognizable from the absence or rejection of theism or any belief on personal god. Used in the field of Christian apologetics and general liberal theology. "Nonteisme" not equal to "Irreligion".
Nonteisme have different types. "Strong atheism" is the positive belief that God does not exist. Some people who do not think about the existence of God are called "Weak Atheist", or -- more specifically-- is the Implicit Atheist.
Other types of Nonteisme often known as Agnosticism, or -- more specifically -- is the Explicit Atheism.
"Strong" or "Positive" Agnosticism is a belief that says it is impossible for man to know God. More clearly opinion rather than Weak Agnosticism is the belief that the existence or nonexistence of God is unknown.
Philosopher Anthony Kenny distinguished Agnostic who found the claim "God's existence" was not clear, and non-cognitive theology, which considers all of God's word has no meaning.
What is Theism?
Theism is --- in the most widespread use --- the belief in one god.
What is Monotheism?
Monotheism (derived from the Greek word "Monon means Single,and Theos means God) is the belief that God is one/single and full power over all things.
General conclusion
Is it true that Karl Marx's communism is atheist (Not acknowledge the existence of God)?
The definition of Communism is not identical to the definition of Atheism, Antitheisme, Nontheisme, Pantheism, Theism and Monotheism . Actually Communism is not and is not anti-God . Therefore, Communism is a political ideology and not a religion or ideology of anti-religion.
Karl Marx's statement that said that religion was only the opiate could not be concluded that was an atheist stance. Understanding that communism is an atheist because of the faulty logic. Among other things:
* Because Marx an atheist (Note : Karl Marx was never declared himself an atheist), then all communists are atheists. This logic could have easily broken. Communism is the opposite of Capitalism . If Communists are considered godless, then capitalist is godless. What about the reality?
* The Netherlands is a Capitalist country, but 42 % of the population are atheists (far more than the largest number of religious adherents there -- Roman Catholic-- which is only shared by 26 % of the population).
* China is a Communist country, but almost everyone there are adherents of a particular religion (Buddhism is the largest religion, followed by the Taoist, Muslim, Catholic, and Christian.)
So, is it true that Karl Marx's materialism is atheist? (Not acknowledge the existence of God)?
I repeat again: Marx offered a philosophical materialism. He divided society into two classes: the working class and the bourgeoisie. Karl Marx's main idea is to fight for the emancipation of labor, which is defending the proletariat to achieve equality with the bourgeoisie. There is no sentence that says Karl Marx (or Marxism) or materialism is atheistic.
Special conclusion
May be useful.
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VIDEO : Richard Dawkins, Rowan Williams, Anthony Kenny: "Human Beings & Ultimate Origin" Debate. Debate at the Sheldonian Theatre, Oxford, February 23rd 2012 with Prof Richard Dawkins, Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams and Philosopher Sir Anthony Kenny. Uploaded on Feb 23, 2012 by DrWhoDaMan. || ► Full 2012 Atheism Debate HD, Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell. From Q and A. Impartial reviews for this clip : "Dawkins was snooty. Pell was outwitted. The questions were predictable, as were the mentions of Hitler and Stalin. There were titters at Pell's reference to 'preparing' boys and sniggers when he clumsily criticised Jews as intellectually inferior shepherds". I must say I sure miss the days of Christopher Hitchens. Dawkins has very good arguments but can struggle to make them sometimes. Still a good debate to watch. Published on Apr 10, 2012 by Hayden Wicks
This faulty logic victims ranging from people who never went to school up to the people who had the title of Bachelor, Master or Professor.
Communism is considered by many as the atheist ideology. This misunderstanding is owned by almost everyone, except those who understand the philosophy well. Some even say Communism is not just atheists (Not acknowledge the existence of God), but also anti-theism (Anti-God) and anti-religion.
Is such an assumption right? (Are you asking for the answer or just need to be quiet, Cisca? If you ask me, then my answer is, "Wrong! I said, "Wrong!"}
Wrong.
They are not able to distinguish the notion of Communism, Marxism, Materialism, Atheism, Antitheisme, Nontheisme, Pantheism, Theism and Monotheism.
What is communism?
Communism is a political ideology and socio-economic structures that encourage the establishment of an egalitarian society, without classes and without the country, just based on the same ownership and control over the factors of production and property in general.
What is Marxism?
Marxism is an understanding that follows the views of Karl Marx. Marx developed a theory related to large economic systems, social systems, and political systems. Followers of this theory is referred to as a Marxist. Marxism covers dialectical materialism and historical materialism and its application to social life.
What is Karl Marx's version of materialism?
Marx offers a philosophy of materialism. According to Marx, the real thing is the material. In social life, the only thing real is the people who work. According to Marx, if men work, then they exist (live). Karl Marx stated that humans should not be viewed abstractly but should be viewed in a concrete, that is, in their relations with the surrounding world as the workers creature. Human nature -- according to him -- is that human is worker creature (Homo laborans, Homo faber).
What is Atheism?
Atheism is a philosophical view that does not believe in the existence of God and the gods, or the rejection of theism. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of gods or God.
What is Antitheisme?
In a general sense, Antitheisme is the ideology that opposes the existence of God. Means, implicitly this ideology recognizes that God exists, but it is opposed. So, Antitheisme actually a stream that recognizes that God does exist, but hate God. Among other things, they think God is not fair in dividing sustenance. The proof, there are rich and some are poor. God is considered unfair.
What is Nontheisme?
Nonteisme is a designation that includes religious and non-religious behavior, which is recognizable from the absence or rejection of theism or any belief on personal god. Used in the field of Christian apologetics and general liberal theology. "Nonteisme" not equal to "Irreligion".
Nonteisme have different types. "Strong atheism" is the positive belief that God does not exist. Some people who do not think about the existence of God are called "Weak Atheist", or -- more specifically-- is the Implicit Atheist.
Other types of Nonteisme often known as Agnosticism, or -- more specifically -- is the Explicit Atheism.
"Strong" or "Positive" Agnosticism is a belief that says it is impossible for man to know God. More clearly opinion rather than Weak Agnosticism is the belief that the existence or nonexistence of God is unknown.
Philosopher Anthony Kenny distinguished Agnostic who found the claim "God's existence" was not clear, and non-cognitive theology, which considers all of God's word has no meaning.
What is Theism?
Theism is --- in the most widespread use --- the belief in one god.
What is Monotheism?
Monotheism (derived from the Greek word "Monon means Single,and Theos means God) is the belief that God is one/single and full power over all things.
General conclusion
Is it true that Karl Marx's communism is atheist (Not acknowledge the existence of God)?
The definition of Communism is not identical to the definition of Atheism, Antitheisme, Nontheisme, Pantheism, Theism and Monotheism . Actually Communism is not and is not anti-God . Therefore, Communism is a political ideology and not a religion or ideology of anti-religion.
Karl Marx's statement that said that religion was only the opiate could not be concluded that was an atheist stance. Understanding that communism is an atheist because of the faulty logic. Among other things:
* Because Marx an atheist (Note : Karl Marx was never declared himself an atheist), then all communists are atheists. This logic could have easily broken. Communism is the opposite of Capitalism . If Communists are considered godless, then capitalist is godless. What about the reality?
* The Netherlands is a Capitalist country, but 42 % of the population are atheists (far more than the largest number of religious adherents there -- Roman Catholic-- which is only shared by 26 % of the population).
* China is a Communist country, but almost everyone there are adherents of a particular religion (Buddhism is the largest religion, followed by the Taoist, Muslim, Catholic, and Christian.)
So, is it true that Karl Marx's materialism is atheist? (Not acknowledge the existence of God)?
I repeat again: Marx offered a philosophical materialism. He divided society into two classes: the working class and the bourgeoisie. Karl Marx's main idea is to fight for the emancipation of labor, which is defending the proletariat to achieve equality with the bourgeoisie. There is no sentence that says Karl Marx (or Marxism) or materialism is atheistic.
Special conclusion
- Marxism is a theory that deals with large economic systems, social systems, and political systems.
- Communism is a political ideology and socio-economic structure.
- Materialism argues that only the material - according to Marx - is real. In social life the only real is the people who work.
- So, it is not true that Communism, Marxism or materialism is Atheism.
May be useful.
***
VIDEO : Richard Dawkins, Rowan Williams, Anthony Kenny: "Human Beings & Ultimate Origin" Debate. Debate at the Sheldonian Theatre, Oxford, February 23rd 2012 with Prof Richard Dawkins, Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams and Philosopher Sir Anthony Kenny. Uploaded on Feb 23, 2012 by DrWhoDaMan. || ► Full 2012 Atheism Debate HD, Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell. From Q and A. Impartial reviews for this clip : "Dawkins was snooty. Pell was outwitted. The questions were predictable, as were the mentions of Hitler and Stalin. There were titters at Pell's reference to 'preparing' boys and sniggers when he clumsily criticised Jews as intellectually inferior shepherds". I must say I sure miss the days of Christopher Hitchens. Dawkins has very good arguments but can struggle to make them sometimes. Still a good debate to watch. Published on Apr 10, 2012 by Hayden Wicks
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