Although there are hopes that talks with Taliban could result in the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, but the talks between them have not reached the stage of determining.
Harry Reid Confident of 'Substantial' U.S. Troop Drawdown in Afghanistan | PBS NewsHour | June 17
www.pbs.org :: http://www.pbs.org/
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Adriaan Zef : Ext.links:
■■ http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/06/18/afghanistan.us.taliban/
■■ http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/06/20116189375145751.html
■■ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005072/U-S-set-strike-deal-Taliban-end-war-Afghanistan-Karzai-claims.html
Almira Izzati : American and British diplomats believe, the Osama's death could give a boost to add to the conversation and the withdrawal of NATO troops that would begin in July, as reported by The Telegraph on Wednesday (18/5).
Cisca Zarmansyah : Izti, there's no prerequisites now. What is seen is how the outcome of negotiations.
Cisca Zarmansyah : Speculation about the talks have made the opponents of Karzai angry, saying they undermine the Afghanistan democracy. Any peace deal with the Taliban will likely involve some element of the group power division in Kabul. The Taliban have demanded the release of 20 prisoners from Gitmo.
American officials said that members of the Haqqani network (based in North Waziristan on the border with Pakistan) are not included in peace talks.
In February, Hillary Clinton said the U.S. would no longer insist on the preconditions, such as asking the Taliban to abandon al-Qaida and accepted the Afghanistan's constitution. The statement can be made after agreement has been reached.
I am very interested to see the political path and the path of reconciliation is given the extra zeal in the coming months, related to the speech given by Hillary Clinton in February when she talked about the diplomatic surge would follow the military surge.
Adriaan Zef: Hon, Ministry of Foreign Affairs has long argued that the case of a full handover of security to Afghanistan with a target on the end of 2014 won't be achieved without the settlement with Taliban. At that time, all the NATO forces in Afghanistan, 140,000 would have to leave. Now the U.S. position is closer to the position of London as part of Marc Grossman's efforts. U.S. has been doing the reduction, and if it might, Britain will be able to reduce some of its troops also.
Jan Pepijn Servaas : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394646/Leave-shooters-Gates-Afghan-withdrawal-bids-goodbye-troops-time.html
Valentino Vie
US In Direct Talks With Taliban
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Valentino Vie : I takes two to Tango!
Fairuz Azalia : This is the last NATO meeting for him before he would retire.
Almira Izzati : good bye, Afghan! they'll miss you
Pranay Suresh : nah .. tango of the summer.
Fairuz Azalia : Why did Karzai not elaborate on that discussion whether it will involve the Taliban officials who are directly talking with the U.S. authorities, or simply by intermediaries.
Pranay Suresh : Fairuz Azalia, Taliban's official position is that international troops should get out of Afghanistan before they participate in the peace talks, and then with the Afghan government only.
Fairuz Azalia : but the diplomats said it had earlier committed by both sides in a conflict that still continued.
Almira Izzati : Fairuz Azalia, that's why the UN separates the black list of sanctions for the Taliban and al-Qaida in order to encourage the Taliban takes part in reconciliation efforts. After all, during these two organizations is handled by the same committee.
Jan Pepijn Servaas : I'm sure NATO will not abandon Afghanistan.
Pranay Suresh : Jan Pepijn Servaas, indeed there is great concern over professionalism and accountability of the Afghan military, unless an adequate accountability mechanisms is done, then the violation of human rights and humanity will grow. Afghan civilians will bear the risk.
Almira Izzati : Welcome to Leon Panetta...aaa!
tadaaa...Pranay Suresh : Many members of the Afghan police have never received any training.
Jan Pepijn Servaas: But so far no reports or complaints about police conduct and the military.
Pranay Suresh : That's because so far no effective system for the residents. Afghan people have high expectations for their security forces. They hope the security forces will protect them, and they will be punished if they do the offense.
http://www.oxfamamerica.org/publications/no-time-to-lose
Jan Pepijn Servaas : I can understand this. You are right, the action of Taliban attacks can't be separated from most of the residents in some areas, because they still think the ability of Afghan army and police are still not equitable.
Valentino Vie
Afghanistan End 2012 - Troops Drawdown - End
□■ http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/
■□ http://www.afghan-web.com/
□■ http://www.rawa.org/index.php
■□ http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Afghanistan
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Almira Izzati : This war is very boring for all observers peace, too long to take the time, cost and the number of victims!
Pranay Suresh : It must be ensured that the withdrawal of U.S. troops doesn't interfere with the international forces policy in Afghanistan, because I am afraid the general policy of the international forces can't be applied after the U.S. retreat. I hope President Obama will take the moderate steps.
Jan Pepijn Servaas : Hey Vincent, do you know a Canadian toy company has manufactured a unique game of chess? the shape of his chess pieces are the members of the Taliban, Osama bin Laden, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama? With a price of 250 U.S. dollars, you can choose the set as you wish. For example, the U.S. versus the Taliban, or the British against the Iraqi insurgents. For the American team, the buyer can choose Obama or Bush as the king. The statue of Liberty on this team become the queen, while the twin towers of World Trade Center as the fortress. Their pawns are a number of U.S. troops, whereas the Taliban team is led by Osama bin Laden as a king and a veiled woman as queen. Their pawns are suicide bombers and an automatic rifleman.
● http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/06/21/take-on-the-taliban-with-250-chess-set/?xid=huffpo-direct
● http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8589659/Taliban-chess-set-pitting-Blair-against-bin-Laden-latest-craze-for-troops.html
● http://www.canada.com/news/canada-in-afghanistan/Canadian+designed+Taliban+chess+latest+craze+troops/4983571/story.html?id=4983571
● http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/21/taliban-chess-set_n_881522.html
Cisca Zarmansyah
Obama: Time to withdraw troops
■ "We stand not for empire: in Afghanistan, elsewhere" : http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/22/obama-time-to-withdraw-troops/
■ Topic - Taliban
:: http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/taliban-movement/
:: http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/taliban-afghanistan.htm
■ About Suspected Militant Ties (Pakistan) :: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/22/pakistan-army-questions-more-officers-about-suspected-militant-ties-1866798494/?
Fairuz Azalia
Related to the same news:
¤ France follows US in troop withdrawal:: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13887033
¤ France to withdraw troops from Afghanistan:: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/23/france.afghanistan/
¤ "It's time to focus on nation building here at home": Obama defies his generals with vow to bring more than 30,000 troops home (just in time for the 2012 election) :: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2007099/President-Obama-announce-withdrawal-33-000-troops-Afghanistan-just-time-2012-election.html
¤ Obama to visit Fort Drum after announcing Afghan troop withdrawal:: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/23/afghanistan.troops.drawdown/
Cisca Zarmansyah recommends a link
www.reuters.com
KABUL (Reuters) - More NATO troops will die in Afghanistan as violence mounts over the summer, but Washington's goal of turning the tide against the insurgency by year's end is within reach, the top U.S.
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Fairuz Azalia : This is the fact that colonization on earth has done more than 10 years in the earth of Afghanistan. Almost or even more than 20 years, Afghanistan was attacked by a foreign state. After Britain, then Russia and now the U.S. and its allies. What's going on in Afghanistan?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Of course the invaders have a treasure map in Afghanistan.
Fairuz Azalia : usually, the colonists were given a capital by the greedy capitalists, and they were proud to send their soldiers. The occupation and suppression were begun as well as they built their lackeys. They did the murder, including killing the civilians with various excuses and reasons. Strangely, ... though the world community has cautioned that the invaders were wrong and should get out of the territory and its colony, but still helpless. Why?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Is this game of conspiracy?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Of course the invaders have a treasure map in Afghanistan.
Fairuz Azalia : usually, the colonists were given a capital by the greedy capitalists, and they were proud to send their soldiers. The occupation and suppression were begun as well as they built their lackeys. They did the murder, including killing the civilians with various excuses and reasons. Strangely, ... though the world community has cautioned that the invaders were wrong and should get out of the territory and its colony, but still helpless. Why?
Cisca Zarmansyah : Is this game of conspiracy?
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